Like A Mother with Katie McGrady

Joy in Chaos: Dr. Peter Kreeft on Trust, Suffering, and the Mystery of Joy

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"Joy is a fact, not a feeling. Christ is our joy — whether we feel it or not." - Dr. Peter Kreeft 

In the midst of life’s whirlwind — from papal funerals and conclave coverage to First Communion prep and family chaos — Katie McGrady sits down with renowned Catholic philosopher and author Dr. Peter Kreeft for a conversation unlike any other on Like a Mother. Together, they dive deep into the mystery of joy — what it really means, how it's deeper than fleeting feelings, and why trust in God is central to experiencing true joy. Kreeft offers timeless wisdom about accepting suffering, resisting over-complication, and living simply with love, even when life is far from simple. This episode is both deeply philosophical and incredibly relatable for parents, caregivers, and anyone seeking to find joy amidst uncertainty and suffering.

Plus, Katie shares how her family found practical joy in the middle of life’s craziness — Chick-fil-A, pickleball, and all. This is a heartening and challenging episode that will stay with you long after the credits roll.

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